Ep. 6: Building Community Wealth with Leslie Lindo
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Get ready to dive into this juicy conversation, with host Nikishka Iyengar and Leslie Lindo, whom has dedicated over a decade of her career working to change the systems that have been most extractive on social and natural ecosystems. In this episode, Leslie drops some serious knowledge about community wealth building through the Olamina Fund – a model of non-extractive finance created by Candide Group to address gaps in access to capital to support community wealth building through more flexible and community-engaged investments, particularly for communities historically excluded from the economy. Leslie also offers a glimpse into her broader work engaging with the solidarity economy through her work serving on the board of the New Economy Coalition.
Highlights:
•.Entrepreneurial Mindset and Work: Leslie initiated a program called Project Rising in Phoenix to activate vacant lots and abandoned buildings by involving the community and developing investment-worthy projects. Realizing that traditional financing approaches didn't adequately support innovative and community-centered projects, Leslie got involved in changing the structure of project financing.
• Olamina Fund's Community Engagement and Partnership: Leslie describes the value of designing and working with a community advisory board and other community partners, emphasizing the importance of gathering feedback and learning from the community's experiences to improve future iterations. The focus is on collaboration and identifying investment opportunities that align with community needs, such as supporting emerging funds and transferring land and real estate to community control.
• Creative Financial Support: Nikishka and Leslie discuss the need to think creatively about financial models with the goal to tailor the funding approach to meet the specific needs of the organizations being supported. For example, methods of supporting organizations that may not be able to make payments in the early stages of development, such as exploring longer timeframes for investments and seeking the right investor partners who are willing to structure their investments accordingly.
• Personal and Organizational Growth: Leslie reflects on her personal and organizational growth, highlighting the journey of working with the New Economy Coalition (NEC) and other organizations. She describes the evolution of NEC's structure and decision-making models, emphasizing the importance of listening, leaning into values, and finding ways to redistribute wealth. Leslie also acknowledges the emotional labor involved in this work and expresses a need for grace, patience, and ongoing learning.
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Leslie Lindo, Managing Director of Candide Group’s Olamina Fund, has dedicated over a decade of her career working to change the systems that have been most extractive on social and natural ecosystems. Over the last 7 years she has focused on identifying and advancing solutions to address the wealth disparities in economically marginalized communities. In her last role as VP of Strategic Partnerships at Common Future (formerly BALLE), she brought together diverse stakeholders around decolonizing access to capital, racial equity and impact investing, equitable financing tools, democratic governance and financial structures, integrated entrepreneurial ecosystems, and shared ownership of land, housing, and businesses.
Leslie has training in sustainable building, strategic planning, and facilitative leadership for social change. She has proudly served on executive committees for multiple boards, including The Green Chamber of Greater Phoenix, USGBC Arizona Chapter, and Oakland Grown, and currently serves as board co-chair for the New Economy Coalition.
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doing this work your card is on the surface. And it's difficult because I'm personally impacted by what I'm seeing. There's a lot of emotional labor in this work and really trying to balance holding that. And still moving forward is something where I think I would ask for grace, and patience. There's just so much learning that's happening. And then I think for all Amina, as I mentioned, this is really the stage where we're on another learning journey to really understand how we can better show up as a partner, the more folks are willing to share and be honest, the more helpful that will be as we're evolving as a fund. The other really big learning is the sense of urgency, and really just being mindful about how much we're placing on ourselves. It's just such a spiral that we get into because we see what's needed. And so we have this derive of a sense of urgency, and then what is actually the harm that we're doing to ourselves as well as the community by having a false sense of urgency or really trying to move too fast and not being thoughtful in the process. It's it's okay to pause and take a breath and make sure that we're being really thoughtful about how we're moving forward.
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and we're very excited for this conversation.
Nikishka Iyengar 2:12
Hey, y'all, it's Nick ishka. And in this episode, I get to interview Lesley Lindo, Managing Director of Illumina fund. Illumina Fund is a $40 million loan fund that seeks to address the historic lack of access to capital in black and native communities communities that have faced decades of disinvestment and intentional extraction, launched in 2019 by Candide group, O Lemina fund is focused on building community wealth, so that supporting communities with having direct ownership and control over their own assets. Since 2020, I've had the opportunity of serving as an inaugural community advisory board member at Illumina. And in this interview, we'll hear more about you know what that means, and how that structure and we as community advisory board members serve to flip the script on traditional power dynamics that exist in finance. A big part of our conversation in this episode is about rewriting those rules of finance. Leslie is also a board member at New Economy Coalition, a coalition of 200 plus organizations building the Solidarity Economy in the US and showing that another world is not only possible, it's already happening. My organization, the guild is a new member of the new economy coalition. Before we dive in a quick note, unfortunately, we dealt with him zoom glitches through certain segments of this interview. So you might hear the audio skip a few times, we did our best to edit this out. Apologies, but it's still a great lesson.
Lovely, I'm so excited to have you here on the podcast. It has been a long time coming, just having worked together and allowed me to have fun but just so so honored to have you here. I would love if we kick started this interview with just you know if you could share your origin story and how you got to this work you're doing today with Hola, Mina fun,
Leslie Lindo 4:15
I would say it's been quite a long road. For me to get here. I think it really starts with just having an entrepreneurial mindset. And when I was living in Phoenix for 10 years, I had a really lovely arc as an entrepreneur there. I originally ran a professional certification course in sustainable design and development. And part of that program was this practicum where the students would bring a project where they would kind of apply their key learnings. And we were really looking around at the context of the community where there were a lot of vacant lots and abandoned buildings. And we started kind of directing the studio didn't identify some of these sites to see what they would do to activate them. And the students brought some of these amazing projects together. And we were really inspired by them. And the context of the community at the time was, you know, a lot of outside developers would come in and put in development that obviously didn't really fit the landscape identify with the culture, and it wasn't really designed with community in mind. And so we were looking at on the one hand, where we had folks from the community designing these projects, and then having all of these available sites to develop, we thought, what would it look like if we actually brought forward some of these ideas that the students were coming up with? What would it look like? And so we did kind of this little shark tank event where they were pitching these ideas to a panel of developers and investors. And it was really meant to just be this one off event. And at the end, there was a lot of really good feedback that the investors provided where they're like, this is actually a great concept, here's what you would need to do to develop it further. And as we were watching this unfold, we thought, what would it look like to actually develop a full program around this where we identified these sites, have the community bringing ideas and then ran them through an incubator accelerator program to get them investment worthy. And so that's where we ended up launching an initiative called Project rising. And so we would get site control of vacant lots and buildings, and then have a call for ideas with the community, they would submit their ideas, a panel would judge the ones that they thought had the most potential. And then we would present those in a community forum and like a town hall and the community would vote on the projects that they wanted to see move forward through a program. And so we have to meet with a lot of folks to develop these concepts to get them to be quote, unquote, investment ready. And then at the end of the program, we worked with them to try to get investments to bring these projects forward. I think it was really during that stage where I recognized that even though we were meeting with friendly investors, so impact investors and Community Foundation's, they were still trying to fit these projects into the traditional box that didn't really allow for innovative approaches in financing projects that really met the needs of the organizations and entrepreneurs, let alone the community. And so that's really where it sparked my interest in seeing how I can change the structure of how we finance projects. And so there was a long gap that I knew I needed to hit between where I was and being in a place to play in the investment field. I ended up discovering Bali, the Business Alliance for local living economies, which is now common future and joined that organization because it was really steeped in local community and economic development work. And it felt really aligned. And it was bring me back to the Bay, which is where I've always considered home. And I got to work with different folks on the ground and communities across the country like you who were really trying to build community wealth and close this racial wealth gap. But really, I think at the end of the day move to a place of self determination and liberation, and what does it look like to fund that? So bringing together the folks who have gone through our fellowship programs, as well as again, Community Foundation's high net worth individuals and anchor institutions to try to create models for investing in these types of initiatives was very fulfilling. There was a lot that I learned in terms of like, what was the need, and what were some ideas out there. But for me, it was still moving a little bit too slowly for my liking. And so I knew that at some point, I wanted to be in a position where I could be able to direct capital resources where I knew it was needed most. So when Lin boy who was with RSF, social finance, joined Candide group to launch all Amina fund, she and I had a great conversation about what were some of the community needs. And when all Amina fund actually launched in October 2019, we reconnected to see what it might look like to partner with her in developing and building out the fund. And so it was just this perfect blend of where I knew I wanted to be, and to also work with somebody who had a lot of deep technical expertise, and to be able to learn from that and bring in a lot of the community development experience that I had had. Yeah, that's how I ended up here.
Nikishka Iyengar 9:36
Yeah, I like to see the arc and the evolution of how people get to their work. So yeah, I think it was like, Yeah, well, you tell our listeners actually more about hola Amina?
Leslie Lindo 9:47
Yeah, absolutely. So candy group, which is a registered investment advisory firm, works with small family offices and high net worth individuals who are really focused On a deeper layer of impact investing, obviously, investments that center around social, environmental and economic justice. And really, at the end of the day, when these family offices and individuals are your clients, it's up to them to decide whether or not they want to invest in an initiative. And so we really wanted to be in a position where we would have discretionary authority on which investments we made. And so that's where this idea of creating a fund came from. And it was, I think, a really good blend between listening to what our clients were interested in investing in as well as, for example, Lynne went and did these community listening tours, to really hear what is most needed on the ground, where are we seeing the biggest gaps and access to capital. And one of the themes that kind of emerged were the CDFIs. And community loan funds who are on the ground represent the communities that they serve, but weren't really at that time, in particular, noticed by investors. And so we're stuck with more traditional investing platforms, whether it be banks or federal funding, and there were a lot of restrictions around the funding that these organizations received. And so they weren't really able to be more flexible and patient in the type of investments that they were making. So we were seeing this need on one side, and then hearing the investors saying, we want to find ways to have deeper impact. And for the launch of phase one, we were able to partner with one of our clients who, through multiple deaths, were able to provide the initial $40 million in capitalization for the fund. And so really, we formed an impact thesis around the feedback that we were getting from the community. And so really, first and foremost, looking at representation. So who's leading the organizations and who are the key decision makers, and how close are they to having a shared lived experience with the community that they're serving. And so this was really important for us. For one, I think it allows the people they're serving to have a certain level of trust, to see themselves in the folks who they were working with. And that's incredibly important. And then also with the hope that folks who come from or and can relate to the community will understand the types of services and products that the communities will most need. So we really kind of look for organizations that are really flexible and partner really well with the community in that regard. And then as I mentioned, organizations who themselves didn't really have access to what we would call catalytic capital. So whether it's us coming in as an earlier investor to kind of give confidence to other investors to come in, or if it was to offer better terms to help them achieve their goals. So some of them might be for example, for like a real estate project, not collateralizing, that capital, and then we brought in the community advisory board, which we can get into more depth to really provide that layer of, I would say almost kind of intuition and also lived experience of is this organization, actually? Or is this initiative actually kind of meeting what it says it will? Is it fulfilling its mission? Is it actually reaching the community, where they're at and where they need them. And obviously, we really wanted to serve specifically communities that have been historically extracted from and excluded from the economy. So that led us to prioritize communities in the Deep South, rural America as well as Native American communities.
Nikishka Iyengar 13:49
Thank you for sharing that. Lesley. You mentioned CDFIs and Daffs. And their Will you just break down real quick to our listeners? Because yeah, I have a broad spectrum of listeners.
Leslie Lindo 14:00
Yeah, absolutely. It's a jargon. Right. So I was mentioning that our investors had Daffs, which are donor advised funds, which is where they set aside some of their capital to be used for specific types of investments. And typically, it's held and managed by a particular entity. Sometimes it's a foundation, the Daffs that we work with are held and impact assets. And so it's just another vehicle that folks can use to think outside of the structure of a foundation to be able to make investments and typically towards social benefit, and CDFIs or community development, financial institutions. So it's structured, it provides the same kinds of services as a bank, but it's it's under a different regulation. So typically, they're nonprofits, but they are really designed specifically for community benefits and also have to provide I'd technical assistance. And so really, it's intended to be more of a community oriented financial institution. And it really actually came out of the civil rights movement. So you'll find them in communities where there were larger banks typically don't exist. So it's helping folks access financial resources in a way that is really intended to be more supportive. So hopefully, those two is trying to, like, keep it as simple as possible.
Nikishka Iyengar 15:31
And yeah, if you could also share some of the terms because you did mention, for example, when hola Mina does invest in land or housing or other real estate projects, you're very intentional about not collateralizing the loan because that has been also in the past, or not even in the past, currently, a vehicle of extraction of wealth from the very same communities that the fund is trying to serve. But what do some of the other investment terms look like? And what are some, obviously I know the answer to this, but I would love for you to share, like some of the projects that Olivia has invested just to give folks like an idea of the kind of work this capital is going towards. Yeah,
Leslie Lindo 16:11
absolutely. So when we're investing in CDFIs, and other loan funds, in essence, we are a fund of funds, if you will. So that means we are taking debt capital in and we're providing debt capital in our investments. So creating loans, so we have a loan from our investors, where we have a principal that we have to pay back at a certain rate. And then we're also providing loans to these organizations and initiatives. And when we were talking about not collateralizing the loans so for example, if somebody is typically going out for a loan from a traditional financial institution, for real estate, then that real estate is the collateral. So if payments aren't made, then that institution can actually take that property away from the borrower. And so that's not the position we want to be in the whole point is to help build community wealth, we tried to keep our loans anywhere from two to 5%, which at the time was a lot lower than what folks were receiving. And so that's one of the ways that we really were trying to help the organizations who were funding. So for example, it's this effect, where we have an interest rate that we have to make sure we're able to pay and then we make a loan and then the folks, our loan clients have to make sure that they can pay that rate. And so that they're charging a rate to their borrowers if their loan fund and because of a lower we could come we can get in from the lower those rates could be going out to the community members. So that's really what we've been focused on. And then we were really hoping to be able to provide terms that were a bit longer than what you can get from a traditional institution. And so initially, our loans were for five and seven years. Also, within the underwriting perspective, we weren't really looking at a quote unquote, credit box, which means we're going to set specific requirements of where we want folks to be. And if you fall outside of that, then you're denied a loan. And so for us, we really didn't come in with this preset notion, the federal funding the CDFI fund that funds a lot of CDFIs has general guidelines of saying this is for a healthy institution where you want to be within the certain metrics. And so we looked at that, and then looked at the individual entity to say, where are you at? And why is that? So for one of the organizations that we were lending to that as a native CDFI, for example, their ratio of loans in their portfolio that were at default, was higher than we would typically want to see for a healthy organization. But we really looked at why it was that way. And a lot of it has to do with the fact that they're working also with tribal entities. And really, the first stop isn't to charge off that loan, and then end up hurting that business owner or that individual because they defaulted on this loan, if they're late on their payments, like if it's showing up 3060 90 days, often it was because they're trying to work with these individuals to get in a good place. And they're trying to work with the tribes to help them support the businesses or the individuals. And so that takes time. And so really having this cut off, if you're more than 90 days late on your loan, that you know, all of a sudden, you're not a good borrower, or you have a weak performing portfolio. We wanted to really look at that a little bit differently and understand what's going on. And also it could be that, you know, like in their case, they had one borrower who had a larger loan. And so that was skewing how the numbers played out. And so is really for us is looking at who we're evaluating on a case by case basis. And really what we're leading with is the impact first, so really identifying how they're showing up for the community. What is the difference that they're making, and really giving more weight to that, and then also some of the investments that we've made to support real estate acquisitions, I think it's really important for us to see, the opportunity for land and real estate to transfer to community control and stewardship in the first projects that we're really excited to support is historic Claiborne's Temple, which is in Memphis. And it's an important site for the civil rights history and being the last place where Dr. King started on that March. And so it's just, it's super symbolic for the community, it was really important for us to support a community group that had acquired the building and was looking to do some renovations and reconstructions to really bring it back to being a center that the community can utilize for both supporting the arts as well as cultural identity, preserving cultural identity and heritage, as well as building entrepreneurship opportunities and supporting small businesses really have that kind of historic landmark site, be able to deeply serve the community again, with I think the values that were inherent in the civil rights movement was a really meaningful opportunity for us to support a project.
Nikishka Iyengar 21:20
So you shared a little bit previously, too, about the community advisory board. But I think if there's a little bit more detail, because I think both the deployment of capital on what terms the capital is deployed on is meaningful when it comes to how Illumina thinks about it. And I think also just Investment Committee decisions, like from a fun that's not necessarily typical, where, like a community board is getting to either veto or really support. So yeah, if you could just share some more like detail around that.
Leslie Lindo 21:51
From the initial design of the fund, we wanted to have a governing body that was representative of the communities where we're lending, again, who have a shared experience, lived experience as the folks we're serving. And we really wanted to have a community advisory board who would really focus on guiding our strategy and us maintaining mission alignment. And then really, I think the big part of it was shifting the traditional power dynamics that we see in the finance sector. And so this was really how do we flip the narrative and have the community members being the one who are making the decisions about how capital resources are flowing into the community, having this governing body that is guiding on strategy, as well as really selecting the types of investments that we make was critical to really having that community representation in the investment process. The other piece is that community advisory board members also serve on the credit committee that makes the decisions about whether or not we're approving loans. So the community advisory board is initially saying here are the types of investments that we support you making all Amina and we're also going to make the decisions about which loans get funded. And a community advisory boards, as you were mentioning, they have veto authority, if there's a difference of decision around whether or not to make a loan, we haven't had that situation. But that is actually structurally in place for that to have. Yeah.
Nikishka Iyengar 23:26
So on this podcast, when we think about repair, we've really been talking about it in the last season and this season along four different lenses. We've got the personal level of repair that's needed and interpersonal level and institutional and systemic. And I think that the work obviously you're doing and just the way you bring your full self to all of the work that you've been doing. I want to I'm just curious what have been some of the lessons and you could share this through like an old Amina perspective and also broader, but what are some of the lessons you've learned in the last few years, especially maybe even coming out of the pandemic?
Leslie Lindo 24:05
Yeah, it's hit me in many ways. I think we launched the fund, as I mentioned, in October 2019. I joined the team in January 2020. And then in March, we were hit with the pandemic. And then we went through the summer of the racial uprisings. And there's just so much that just came right from that. I mean, so for one kind of doing this work and working deeply with communities that are so incredibly impacted by the pandemic, as well as these racial and justices to have it just be on the forefront. It just really made us pause, honestly and reflect on what we're doing made us reflect on how we're showing up in community and we just even for us as a loan fund that's trying to be more catalytic and more steeped in racial and economic justice. You know, we were saying are we even going about this the right way. And so we really took took the time to go back and listen to the folks who we had already invested in, as well as the folks we were interested in investing in, to really try to understand what was needed most fun. I think a lot of what we were hearing, in addition to the folks who just really needed to have things differed in terms of whether it's payments or not, that's like basic. So that's just how you tackle a situation. But I think from the heart, it was really more of recognizing that a lot of these communities were hearing from potential investors and foundations who were just trying to flood a lot of money to say, Oh, this is what we need to be focused on right now. racial injustice is a thing, these systems are broken, let's go ahead and invest in you know, but it was folks weren't actually changing their mindset. And so the way that investments were being structured wasn't any different. And so they were still with these extractive terms. And it was really for us, how could we lean in more as being a partner for our organizations, and speaking out honestly, against some of the foundations and investors and saying, Look, we can't structure the loans this way, you can't put this kind of pressure on these organizations, where now, you know, you're actually threatening the financial viability and sustainability of the organizations because you want to see something that is based on some kind of historic thinking of what mitigates risk. And so I think that was, I think, huge for us. And it also showed us who we wanted to partner with, in terms of I mentioned, we take in funding as well, from investors. It was a real question for us, because we wanted to say no to these folks, you don't get to just invest in Oh, Amina, because now you're trying to serve some racial justice goal and say, and check the box of yeah, we've done that. And when if we're in a situation like we were in the pandemic, where we're saying, No, we're going to have to defer payments and not penalize, we knew we needed to have partners who are going to be flexible with us as well in that regard. And so it's really more for us, I think what came out of it was to say, look, it's an opportunity to invest in in Olympia, and the same way that we have an impact questionnaire for the folks who we're going to lend to, we wanted to have an impact questionnaire for potential investors to say, Where are you coming from in this? What is your mindset? What are you willing to let go and break down to be a true partner in this work? And so I think that was one of the big things that came out for us as a fund, we needed to actually ask questions of the investors we're partnering with. And before we say, yes, we want you to invest in the Fund. And we want the community advisory boards to be the ones to make that ultimate decision of which investors are investing in the Fund. From that lens.
Nikishka Iyengar 27:47
Yeah, I'm super excited as a cab bomber to be along for the ride. So I know we're coming up on time. And I would love if you just could give listeners a quick overview of your work. I know you're doing a ton of stuff with the economy coalition, you've been a board member there since 2019. There's obvious threads from the work you're doing with all Amina and others sort of solidarity economy work you've done in the past, but anything you can share with our listeners about New Economy coalition,
Leslie Lindo 28:17
I love the team, it's just been such a great journey to have worked with new economy coalition, having served on the board since 2019, have gone through the arc where originally it was an executive director and the senior leadership team to it being run by CO directors and with staff contributing to now being a worker self directed structure. And all the different types of I think decision making models and organization models that we've experimented with along the way to really lean into our values. It has been such an incredible process, the team is just so strong. And I think able to kind of really lean into the core values and listen in here, which has been quite a long journey. And I'll say I reference all of our structural documents in many different areas, including other organizations where I serve on the board. So it's been just incredible and seeing just the evolution of the structure of the organization. And then in terms of what we're prioritizing in terms of a programmatic perspective, leaning more into members and having member leaders in the organization to really finding ways to redistribute wealth. So NEC is a national organization has the opportunity and relationships to bring in funding that we can then redistribute to other organizations. And so just that whole initiative around redistribution has been really powerful for NEC to lean into, and that's continuing to evolve. So yeah, I think that it obviously is still such a very relevant and meaningful organization that I think is just always thinking about what's next how who leaned more into the Solidarity Economy and better serve our members and our community as a whole?
Nikishka Iyengar 30:05
Thank you, Leslie, I appreciate you sharing that. I am just so curious as we wrap up, what's something you feel like you need right now from your community as you get ready for this next phase of work with elemina? In transitioning from NEC and other orgs? What would you say you need Lesley as like the person and the leader in this work?
Leslie Lindo 30:25
Oh, the person might be harder to. I think I think on a personal level, it's just doing this work, your card is on the surface. And it's difficult, because I'm personally impacted by what I'm seeing as well. And so there's a lot of emotional labor that we talk about in this work, and really trying to balance holding that and still moving forward is something where I think I would ask for grace, and patience, and still learning. There's just so much learning that's happening, and and so grace with that. And then I think for all Amina, as I mentioned, this is really the stage where we're on another learning journey to really understand how we can better show up as a partner. And so I think the more folks are willing to share and be honest, I think the more helpful that will be as as we're evolving as a fund. You know, the other thing I know we're wrapping, but you know, just to name because came up, I think the other really big learning is the sense of urgency, and really just being mindful of that, how much we're placing on ourselves. But it's just such a spiral that we get into because we see what's needed. And so we have this drive of a sense of urgency. And then what is actually the harm that we're doing to ourselves as well as the community by having a false sense of urgency or really trying to move too fast and not being thoughtful in the process. It's it's okay to pause and take a breath and make sure that we're being really thoughtful about how we're moving forward.
Nikishka Iyengar 32:00
I so deeply appreciate you sharing that like questioning assumptions around deadlines. And when certain things are like the only way to answer that question is in community because it does feel like when you're doing this work that every day, there's like a new crisis that we're grappling with. And so there's definitely a level of urgency. But to your point, what unintended harms do we do when we move with that same level of pacing that is external to us? And in trying to build these new worlds? It's yeah, what are we not just leaving on the table, but to what you said? Like what ways are we causing ourselves harm individually? interpersonally. And yeah, at a community level, I think that's so important to constantly question and ask each other and hold each other accountable in this work. So I appreciate you sharing that.
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